Nipsy
Oct 14, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Source
Again, you've made some good points, Nipsy. But you're so childish in the way you present your replies, with stupid and pointless remarks about things that i haven't addressed and wouldn't care to address, that i'm not about to take you seriously.
You have insulted me and since you are taking my responses so personally, i will respond in like.
Originally posted by Source
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit.
Now, I'd love if you could quote an insult from me.
"business acumen"? Hahaha. Grow up, kid. You have demonstrated that you know nothing of the computer industry or the position that Apple holds, but merely fabricated what position YOU think Apple holds, "as a shareholder". You haven't admitted when you were wrong and you're just blindly arguing for Apple.
I know the following. Apple is turning a profit in a crappy market. Apple layoffs have been light. Apple is not a company with the recources (based on market cap) to fab its own chips. These are things which you can verify for yourself.
Originally posted by Nipsy
You're correct about C# (do you call it c sharp, c pound, c hash, or c octothorpe ). I brain farted there.
I never said anything about us designing chips for Apple and to even bring that up is moronic. It doesn't add to the argument or make a point, it's just suggesting that i said something that i didn't. If you can't see that, then kindly re-read my posts before replying.
No, but you suggested that we should rally around some cause (design chips, boycott Apple, etc.) and vocalize. I merely pointed out that neither would do any good.
You are not getting kudos for making good points, you are getting kudos for making popular replies. The ones that most Mac users here want to hear - How much Apple owns and how they have a masterplan that, mysteriously, never seems to quite work out for them, now does it.
When we started this argument, I observed that executive teams at publicly traded companies prolly knew more than you about what was happening. A day later, with have a 64 Bit IBM chip, with many sources (sfgate.com, cnn.com, etc.) independently confirming it is to become an Apple part.
Hmmmm.....looks like it worked out to me.
Well it seems as though Apple has gone with IBM, so part of their "plan" is to improve chip speed, just as i suggested they should.
Without you, I'm sure they'd be gunning to slow things down. I'm sure you'll be back to tell us how this 1.8 GHz 64 bit Power4 derivative is slow compared to the 3.8 GHz PIV next year.
I never suggested that the only way for Apple to survive is purely chip speed, i suggested that that is a major part of it and to say it isn't is moronic.
I guess it's a good thing I haven't, else you could call me a moron.
In the end, Nispy, we have agreed on many points and if this whole argument had gone a little better, without petty, childish insults on your part, which i'm ashamed to say that i have contributed to in this last post, and complete missunderstandings of my posts, we could have come to some kind of constructive conclusion. Clearly that wasn't your aim.
Originally posted by Source
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit.
Again, please, show me an insult of mine.
I just hope you have achieved whatever you intended to with your childish endeavors in this thread.
I let you know later, it's my nap time, and I need a daipy change.
Again, you've made some good points, Nipsy. But you're so childish in the way you present your replies, with stupid and pointless remarks about things that i haven't addressed and wouldn't care to address, that i'm not about to take you seriously.
You have insulted me and since you are taking my responses so personally, i will respond in like.
Originally posted by Source
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit.
Now, I'd love if you could quote an insult from me.
"business acumen"? Hahaha. Grow up, kid. You have demonstrated that you know nothing of the computer industry or the position that Apple holds, but merely fabricated what position YOU think Apple holds, "as a shareholder". You haven't admitted when you were wrong and you're just blindly arguing for Apple.
I know the following. Apple is turning a profit in a crappy market. Apple layoffs have been light. Apple is not a company with the recources (based on market cap) to fab its own chips. These are things which you can verify for yourself.
Originally posted by Nipsy
You're correct about C# (do you call it c sharp, c pound, c hash, or c octothorpe ). I brain farted there.
I never said anything about us designing chips for Apple and to even bring that up is moronic. It doesn't add to the argument or make a point, it's just suggesting that i said something that i didn't. If you can't see that, then kindly re-read my posts before replying.
No, but you suggested that we should rally around some cause (design chips, boycott Apple, etc.) and vocalize. I merely pointed out that neither would do any good.
You are not getting kudos for making good points, you are getting kudos for making popular replies. The ones that most Mac users here want to hear - How much Apple owns and how they have a masterplan that, mysteriously, never seems to quite work out for them, now does it.
When we started this argument, I observed that executive teams at publicly traded companies prolly knew more than you about what was happening. A day later, with have a 64 Bit IBM chip, with many sources (sfgate.com, cnn.com, etc.) independently confirming it is to become an Apple part.
Hmmmm.....looks like it worked out to me.
Well it seems as though Apple has gone with IBM, so part of their "plan" is to improve chip speed, just as i suggested they should.
Without you, I'm sure they'd be gunning to slow things down. I'm sure you'll be back to tell us how this 1.8 GHz 64 bit Power4 derivative is slow compared to the 3.8 GHz PIV next year.
I never suggested that the only way for Apple to survive is purely chip speed, i suggested that that is a major part of it and to say it isn't is moronic.
I guess it's a good thing I haven't, else you could call me a moron.
In the end, Nispy, we have agreed on many points and if this whole argument had gone a little better, without petty, childish insults on your part, which i'm ashamed to say that i have contributed to in this last post, and complete missunderstandings of my posts, we could have come to some kind of constructive conclusion. Clearly that wasn't your aim.
Originally posted by Source
If you're going to whine about it constantly and then get upset with someone who says it's not good enough, then you're just a stupid hypocrit.
Again, please, show me an insult of mine.
I just hope you have achieved whatever you intended to with your childish endeavors in this thread.
I let you know later, it's my nap time, and I need a daipy change.
benjs
Apr 13, 05:55 PM
Funny how they claim it's supposed to be nowhere near final software, yet it's releasing in a month and a half. I would think this is on bug ironing stage right?
To set the record straight, read that paragraph from Larry Jordan very carefully:
"While the slide show was identical to the February meeting, the demo was not. Randy Ubillos, who did the demo, added more features and additional explanations on effects (see the screen shot above). However, I was told later that the build that was demoed was the same build that was shown in February - and that the application has moved significantly forward since that time.
In other words, what we saw tonight was nowhere near the final form of the application."
So, assume that this build is from February 23rd, the exact date MacRumors reported this invitation-only showing of FCP X. Also assume that FCP X is released on June 1st (which seems overly optimistic to me). That's still roughly a three month period between beta and final release, with a distribution model whereby Apple is capable of making tweaks as late as... well... June 1st. In addition, I would imagine the February showing was earlier than the 23rd, and the release date will be later than the 1st. Oh... there's also the fact that since this is a ground-up reinterpretation of FCP, this has probably been worked on for quite some time.
To set the record straight, read that paragraph from Larry Jordan very carefully:
"While the slide show was identical to the February meeting, the demo was not. Randy Ubillos, who did the demo, added more features and additional explanations on effects (see the screen shot above). However, I was told later that the build that was demoed was the same build that was shown in February - and that the application has moved significantly forward since that time.
In other words, what we saw tonight was nowhere near the final form of the application."
So, assume that this build is from February 23rd, the exact date MacRumors reported this invitation-only showing of FCP X. Also assume that FCP X is released on June 1st (which seems overly optimistic to me). That's still roughly a three month period between beta and final release, with a distribution model whereby Apple is capable of making tweaks as late as... well... June 1st. In addition, I would imagine the February showing was earlier than the 23rd, and the release date will be later than the 1st. Oh... there's also the fact that since this is a ground-up reinterpretation of FCP, this has probably been worked on for quite some time.
likemyorbs
Apr 28, 01:00 PM
Getting really worried about corvus. Just read some of the worst damage was in Tuscaloosa, I really hope he's ok.
H. Flower
Apr 14, 02:13 PM
I'm really excited for the new features, many of which sound great, but I wonder why they couldn't just implement them into the current FCP interface? I'm a heavy Final Cut Pro user and really fast with the current application. I hate to have to learn an entirely new interface.
I would be shocked if the keystrokes were different, so you'll have that going for you.
I would be shocked if the keystrokes were different, so you'll have that going for you.
4God
Jan 11, 04:34 PM
iPhone 2.0 ;)
Websnapx2
Aug 3, 05:15 PM
Although they did give all the developers who 'rented' the 'Intel Development Kit' from WWDC '05 a Intel iMac when they were released in January. ;)
Also, kids, this is what we should be discussing:
True, but I think that was because it was the only shipping intel machine apple was shipping. Not for any other reason.
Also, kids, this is what we should be discussing:
True, but I think that was because it was the only shipping intel machine apple was shipping. Not for any other reason.
mautal
Nov 7, 05:05 PM
Can someone help! is it known that apple put old/previous models on the refurb site? :)
it is known??:confused: :confused:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/6904000/wo/2w4e5FPuqqKh3ja4a0C1Dd2vwvr/3.0.0.23.1.0.8.7.1.2.1.1
thats the link i was directed too when new c2d mbp's were out and cd mbp went on sale
it is known??:confused: :confused:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/6904000/wo/2w4e5FPuqqKh3ja4a0C1Dd2vwvr/3.0.0.23.1.0.8.7.1.2.1.1
thats the link i was directed too when new c2d mbp's were out and cd mbp went on sale
Ljohnson72
Apr 11, 01:53 AM
No one is making you pay for CS 5.5. Just wait and buy CS6, CS7, etc as you normally would have.
Peace
Nov 27, 04:25 PM
If this works out and a Beatles iPod does come out with a commercial alongside I can almost guarantee you the song will be Revolution.
Just one persons opinion ;)
You say you want a revolution.
Well well you know.
We all want to change the world.
those are perfect words for Apple/Apple
Just one persons opinion ;)
You say you want a revolution.
Well well you know.
We all want to change the world.
those are perfect words for Apple/Apple
bobob
May 5, 05:12 AM
The ridiculous 3D fad will be over before the iPad 3 comes out.
Hls811
Nov 7, 10:04 AM
Exactly what I was saying. Apple is based in Cupertino, California. It's not even 8 am here yet. Usually stuff happens between 9am-12pm
When they announced the changes to the MBP C2D, it was done by now.. if you go back to the posting on MacRumors, (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024083823.shtml) it was done at 8:38am EST (5:38AM Cupertino time).
Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
Tuesday October 24, 2006 08:38 AM EST
Today's not lookin' good for this announcement....
When they announced the changes to the MBP C2D, it was done by now.. if you go back to the posting on MacRumors, (http://www.macrumors.com/pages/2006/10/20061024083823.shtml) it was done at 8:38am EST (5:38AM Cupertino time).
Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
Tuesday October 24, 2006 08:38 AM EST
Today's not lookin' good for this announcement....
VirtualRain
Mar 8, 01:08 AM
^^^ Wow! Very cool. Is that as hard as it appears to put together or is there some trick to it?
rand0m3r
Nov 8, 06:31 AM
If you're reading this Thread ;-) Let me wonder... and what about macbooks of different colors, to match the ipod nano?
i hope not. i want a white one.
i hope not. i want a white one.
PowerGamerX
Oct 22, 08:08 PM
Users/Mark/Desktop/IMG_7456.JPG
My setup
You have to upload a picture to the internet. We can't view contents on your hard drive.
My setup
You have to upload a picture to the internet. We can't view contents on your hard drive.
Digital Skunk
Apr 11, 08:42 AM
So buy the full version outright and get data plans with no caps. That's the beauty of a free market - you get to decide what you want and if the cost is worth it.
True about the subscription model.
Not so much about the data caps. There's no choice with many service providers. AT&T's data plan with the iPad for one example.
More to the point, I think it's just Full of Win mentioning that it's not a very ideal solution for those in Adobe's demographic. Which is a point we can discuss. I personally feel they've got it right, but I doubt there will be any substantial market for renting the full on suites when buying them outright ends up being a cheaper/more convenient option.
True about the subscription model.
Not so much about the data caps. There's no choice with many service providers. AT&T's data plan with the iPad for one example.
More to the point, I think it's just Full of Win mentioning that it's not a very ideal solution for those in Adobe's demographic. Which is a point we can discuss. I personally feel they've got it right, but I doubt there will be any substantial market for renting the full on suites when buying them outright ends up being a cheaper/more convenient option.
guzhogi
Mar 18, 01:32 PM
<< Plays "Taps" >>
Tec972
Nov 25, 11:43 AM
I sympathise with lots of your points, but this one doesn't necessarily stand up.
Cost of an external hard disk to back up my entire music library (if I had bought it all from iTunes): Approx �40
Cost of shelving to hold all my CD's: Approx �200
I understand what you are saying and already realized that, like I said, I would love for iTunes to be my one stop shop for music, because it's more convenient. But their pricing is off due to such low overhead, that I shouldn't be able to buy physical media more cheaply.
My argument is has more to do with them not keeping accounts that you can access your purchased stuff from. It is more of the fact that I don't want to back up stuff 2 or 3 times over because if it is lost I wouldn't be able to get it again. Hard drives do fail quite a bit. I know there are circumstance of apple letting people download all their stuff once, but it should be something they would offer anyway.
Most of my original post would pertain to buying something like the Beatles Box set on iTunes. I could buy it on iTunes for $150 in digital format or go to Amazon get the real box set for $130 encode it in better quality if I desired and either throw the box set away, give it away or sell it for lets say $80, if I didn't want it taking up space. So it cost me $50, and I have the same exact thing I would have gotten on iTunes for about one third the cost (depending on what I sold it for). If you still think that buying that set on iTunes is the better value then that's fine. To me it just doesn't compare.
I didn't really mean to write a rant opposed to trying to make people realize that iTunes is not a good deal in many cases and they should not be charging what they do, but people are so blinded, it makes me wonder.
Don't get me wrong, on few occasions I do buy music on iTunes but I still think it is a ripoff because it is an all digital purchase.
Cost of an external hard disk to back up my entire music library (if I had bought it all from iTunes): Approx �40
Cost of shelving to hold all my CD's: Approx �200
I understand what you are saying and already realized that, like I said, I would love for iTunes to be my one stop shop for music, because it's more convenient. But their pricing is off due to such low overhead, that I shouldn't be able to buy physical media more cheaply.
My argument is has more to do with them not keeping accounts that you can access your purchased stuff from. It is more of the fact that I don't want to back up stuff 2 or 3 times over because if it is lost I wouldn't be able to get it again. Hard drives do fail quite a bit. I know there are circumstance of apple letting people download all their stuff once, but it should be something they would offer anyway.
Most of my original post would pertain to buying something like the Beatles Box set on iTunes. I could buy it on iTunes for $150 in digital format or go to Amazon get the real box set for $130 encode it in better quality if I desired and either throw the box set away, give it away or sell it for lets say $80, if I didn't want it taking up space. So it cost me $50, and I have the same exact thing I would have gotten on iTunes for about one third the cost (depending on what I sold it for). If you still think that buying that set on iTunes is the better value then that's fine. To me it just doesn't compare.
I didn't really mean to write a rant opposed to trying to make people realize that iTunes is not a good deal in many cases and they should not be charging what they do, but people are so blinded, it makes me wonder.
Don't get me wrong, on few occasions I do buy music on iTunes but I still think it is a ripoff because it is an all digital purchase.
Huntn
Oct 12, 01:25 PM
Well, if someone really wants to know that stuff, there have been 3 or 4 books written in the Halo universe, along with Halo Wars, that fill in a lot of details about the story Pre-Installation 04. Not to mention all the Terminals in Halo 3 and the Datapads in Reach. If you want info, it is out there. And it is good. :D
I might be inclined to read the books, if they are really good. I think it has potential to be an outstanding sci-fi epic. :)
This is a dilemma for all game sequels and has mostly to do with individual tolerance for repetition- more of the same and it's good because I'm having such a good time -or- been there done that. ;)
I might be inclined to read the books, if they are really good. I think it has potential to be an outstanding sci-fi epic. :)
This is a dilemma for all game sequels and has mostly to do with individual tolerance for repetition- more of the same and it's good because I'm having such a good time -or- been there done that. ;)
gekko513
Aug 3, 04:04 PM
Now I'm confused, too. :(
Treq
Nov 4, 04:58 PM
Uhm, you are a bit confused.
Which tells me, that Apple has done a poor job of getting Safari to work well with Flash.
That's like saying that Microsoft should make windows work better with iTunes... kinda backwards.
Given that Safari is the fastest browser out there, I think Apple has done their part. Adobe needs to step up, and optimize flash for osx.
Which tells me, that Apple has done a poor job of getting Safari to work well with Flash.
That's like saying that Microsoft should make windows work better with iTunes... kinda backwards.
Given that Safari is the fastest browser out there, I think Apple has done their part. Adobe needs to step up, and optimize flash for osx.
reckless_0001
Mar 25, 05:18 PM
Yes, it does.
For whom doesn't understand what we are talkin' about: There is a way to enable 4~5 fingers gesture function which is allowed only for developers. Purchase Xcode($4.99) from Mac App Store, install it, connect the iPad to the USB port and Xcode will recognize your iPad and there is a button asks you to use this iPad for development purpose. Click it and it will ask your developer ID but you can simply click cancel, it will anyway continue the procedure to enable the function. After that, go to the preference - general on you iPad, you will get to see the option for the 4~5 fingers gesture. I personally think, it is worth more than $5.
Dude, Just set up a free Apple Developer account then download it for free from ADC. :)
EDIT: My bad. Guess it's not free, I'm pretty sure I had an account before.
For whom doesn't understand what we are talkin' about: There is a way to enable 4~5 fingers gesture function which is allowed only for developers. Purchase Xcode($4.99) from Mac App Store, install it, connect the iPad to the USB port and Xcode will recognize your iPad and there is a button asks you to use this iPad for development purpose. Click it and it will ask your developer ID but you can simply click cancel, it will anyway continue the procedure to enable the function. After that, go to the preference - general on you iPad, you will get to see the option for the 4~5 fingers gesture. I personally think, it is worth more than $5.
Dude, Just set up a free Apple Developer account then download it for free from ADC. :)
EDIT: My bad. Guess it's not free, I'm pretty sure I had an account before.
steveh
Apr 13, 04:39 PM
I just wonder if there is any upgrade pricing strategy. No matter what - $299 is A STEAL!
Specifically addressed after the main demo.
No upgrade pricing, versions, etc.; one price, from the app store. Period.
Considering the current FCS price...
Specifically addressed after the main demo.
No upgrade pricing, versions, etc.; one price, from the app store. Period.
Considering the current FCS price...
FadeToBlack
Sep 16, 01:38 AM
It is. Got mine yesterday. It looks fab, but above all it sounds like my old ( and broken) shuffle. And that's good. No, it's excellent.
Yeah, the sound is GREAT. It seems to have better sound than my previous iPods. (2nd Gen. mini, 4th and 5th Gen. iPod)
Yeah, the sound is GREAT. It seems to have better sound than my previous iPods. (2nd Gen. mini, 4th and 5th Gen. iPod)
guffman
Aug 4, 11:46 AM
Is WWDC being shown in Apple Stores? I don't see any info on the apple.com/retail pages.
No its not. There will be live text coverage on MR, and their will be a video of the keynote on apple's site within a couple hours after it ends.
No its not. There will be live text coverage on MR, and their will be a video of the keynote on apple's site within a couple hours after it ends.
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